Seattle Center may replace Fun Forest with 44,000-square-foot “glass house” & Dale Chihuly exhibit

Posted on March 12th, 2010 by master


The Seattle Center has been debating what to do with 68,000 square feet of empty space left after half of the Fun Forest was cleared out back in January. Originally the space was meant to be used to showcase new vendors and temporary projects on a trial basis while the Center searched for more permanent ideas to implement into the Century 21 Master Plan, a $570 million, 20-year investment in the revitalization of Seattle Center and in homage of the 1962 World’s Fair that gave the Center its start.

(Image by Studio 216 for Owen Richards Architects, courtesy of both).

However, according to a report by our news partner, the Seattle Times, after receiving project ideas for the space that left the Center “disappointed,” they decided to consider a proposal to build a 44,000-square-foot “glass house” that would house artist Dale Chihuly‘s work. Many consider this proposed project an “extraordinary opportunity” for the Center. From the Times,

The Wright family, which built and owns the Space Needle, on Tuesday described a partnership with Chihuly and Seattle that could attract more than 1,000 visitors a day if the city will lease about an acre of land for what would be a $15 million tribute to the glass artist.

If built, a Chihuly spokeswoman said, the new “glass house” would be filled with at least $50 million worth of Chihuly art.

The 44,000 square feet of land directly below the Space Needle slotted for the project includes 3,800 square feet of indoor “glass house” exhibit space, outdoor public gardens and a plaza, as well as a café and bookstore/retail space.

Mayor Mike McGinn has voiced his support for the project’s consideration, noting that it could be a valuable revenue generator for the Center, which funds 67 percent of its own budget without assistance. However, others are concerned that the proposal takes away from the original plan for the space, which was intended to be a more open, multi-use, outdoor arena that would be open to the public free of charge. From the Times,

“There’s good intentions all around, but we need to decide, is this what we want to do with our public property?” said City Councilmember Sally Bagshaw, who chairs the council’s Parks and Seattle Center Committee. “We’re taking green, open space and closing it off in a very walled fashion, and people can only enter into that if they can pay. My hope and dream would be to make the Seattle Center Seattle’s ‘Central Park,’ and the more green space we give away, the less we’re going to have a Central Park.”

If the Center goes through with the proposal, Space Needle CEO Ron Sevart told the Times he hopes that construction would begin on the Chihuly space when the lease for the Fun Forest expires in September.

The project could open in the spring of 2011, in time for the 50th anniversary of the 1962 Seattle World’s Fair at the Center. Sevart said he didn’t know what admission would cost but said it might be in the $12 to $14 range.

This is not the only big change proposed at Seattle Center. Much discussion has circulated around a deal between the city and Seattle Public Schools concerning the ownership of Memorial Stadium.

The new deal would give ownership of the stadium over to the city, which would then rebuilt it into a “green, integrated, multi-functional space that provides for year-round community and school activities” to be shared between the School District and Seattle Center. In exchange, the city would give the school district preferential use of the new, smaller amphitheater and hand over ownership of an adjacent existing plot of land (currently being used as a parking garage). Read more on that deal here and here. Read background on the Fun Forest replacement project here. See the full Seattle Times story on the proposed Chihuly exhibit space here.

What do you think Queen Anne? Would you like to see a 44,000-square-foot “glass house”, equiped with gardens, a plaza and a 3,800-square-foot exhibit of masterful (some would say) glass creations, or would you prefer an admission-free open space? Share your thoughts and ideas in the comments below.


74 responses to “Seattle Center may replace Fun Forest with 44,000-square-foot “glass house” & Dale Chihuly exhibit”

  1. Robert Munoz says:

    Whether or not Dale Chihuly's work is “masterful” is a matter of opinion; I happen to think it's mass-produced, slickly-promoted kitsch. We already have way too much of him. I vote for open space.

  2. Robert Munoz says:

    Whether or not Dale Chihuly's work is “masterful” is a matter of opinion; I happen to think it's mass-produced, slickly-promoted kitsch. We already have way too much of him. I vote for open space.

  3. Steam'Coat says:

    Taking what used to be a family-friendly area of the Center and turning it into a “Don't Touch Anything” exhibit…yeah. That's gonna be REAL fun for the kids.

  4. Steam'Coat says:

    Taking what used to be a family-friendly area of the Center and turning it into a “Don't Touch Anything” exhibit…yeah. That's gonna be REAL fun for the kids.

  5. ValGarfield says:

    If it is a financial win for the city. Why not? If we, the taxpayer, have to pay for it that is a different deal. It is a shame we can't find something that is family oriented.

  6. ValGarfield says:

    If it is a financial win for the city. Why not? If we, the taxpayer, have to pay for it that is a different deal. It is a shame we can't find something that is family oriented.

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    So, change is good. BUT, what kind of change are we talking about? If we're NOT talking about building another amusement park (and folks, the Puget Sound area NEEDS another amusement park (Enchanted Village and Wild Waves don't cut it anymore), albeit, not one on the scale of Disneyland), then what would be some ideas that would be similar enough to the spirit of the original Fun Forest, while keeping things green, safe, and affordable for families?

    1.) A center for the ARTS for families to enjoy (think: the COMPLIMENT to the Science Center) that consists of the following (different buildings/areas 1-8, like the Science Center):

    1.) A Concert Hall for local music organizations, orchestras and ensembles, particularly those aimed at the youth.
    2.) A Recital Hall for solo and chamber performances, again, the Recital Hall would be aimed at the youth as well.
    3.) Outdoor and Indoor Puppet Theaters for kids and families to enjoy
    4.) A Dramatic Theater for plays and musicals appropriate for families
    5.) A Large Lawn, with plenty of deciduous trees and benches, with an open air stage, where storytellers can tell stories to kids, small theater groups can present plays to families and kids, local family-friendly musical groups can perform, jugglers and other entertainers can perform for families/kids, and venders can sell foods (not just junk food and fair food, but juices and healthy foods as well)
    6.) Interactive music composition and music labs for youth, with particular emphasis on SOUNDPROOF areas and keeping the noise level down in certain areas (where individual composition and music listening is taking place). Some music labs can feature how the different musical instruments work.
    7.) Visual Arts, Design, and Fashion/Applied Arts studios for families and kids, focusing on painting, illustration, drawing, cartooning, computer animation, sculpture, pottery/ceramics, interior design, architecture, graphic design, photography, glassblowing, wood and leatherworking, along with other crafts, clothing and textiles.
    8.) An art gallery aimed at families and kids

    2.) A botanical park that is aimed at providing its guests with the highest degree of wonder and satisfaction, via the beauty of the flowers, shrubs, trees and other vegetation there, and from imaginative, immersive floral and artistic displays (man-made waterfalls, artisitc structures, fountains, etc.). The botanical park should be at least on par with Butchart Gardens in Victoria. Make sure admission is not too expensive.

    3.) A Kids Park, with particular emphasis on fun, inexpensive, imaginative, immersive mini-rides, activities and attractions. Ideas could include a large, grassy picnic ground area with food vendors, trampolines, giant jungle gym, areas (some of which are kid-sized) that have certain color themes (like pink, orange, blue, yellow, purple, white, green, red, etc.), huge, colorful/see through tunnel maze (above and underground), swings, teeter totters, go karts, miniature golf, dog park, barbecue areas, live family friendly bands and music groups, ball pits, storybook theater/puppet theater, flower gardens, fruit and vegetable gardens, putt putt golf, and other attractions (think INEXPENSIVE and family friendly, attractions the old Fun Forest DIDN'T HAVE. Keep most of the attractions FREE.

    4.) A Renaissance Fair area, complete with minstrels/lutists/bards, etc., jousters and fencers, gaming area, athletic competitions and obstacle courses, cider drinking and food/fresh produce vendors, European dancing, comedic shows and jesters, jugglers, magicians, fire breathers, toy makers and other craftsmen/merchants, and questing areas (forested areas designed for live fantasy quests).

    Just a few ideas. Tacoma already has a glass museum and cafe. Seattle has PLENTY of similar/like places already. We don't need more upscale, expensive, trendy, suit and tie glass/art museums/studios and cafes to have a good time. Lets keep it casual and keep it family friendly, and most importantly, INEXPENSIVE, GREEN, and FUN.

  10. benjamincgessel says:

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    So, change is good. BUT, what kind of change are we talking about? If we're NOT talking about building another amusement park (and folks, the Puget Sound area NEEDS another amusement park (Enchanted Village and Wild Waves don't cut it anymore), albeit, not one on the scale of Disneyland), then what would be some ideas that would be similar enough to the spirit of the original Fun Forest, while keeping things green, safe, and affordable for families?

    1.) A center for the ARTS for families to enjoy (think: the COMPLIMENT to the Science Center) that consists of the following (different buildings/areas 1-8, like the Science Center):

    1.) A Concert Hall for local music organizations, orchestras and ensembles, particularly those aimed at the youth.
    2.) A Recital Hall for solo and chamber performances, again, the Recital Hall would be aimed at the youth as well.
    3.) Outdoor and Indoor Puppet Theaters for kids and families to enjoy
    4.) A Dramatic Theater for plays and musicals appropriate for families
    5.) A Large Lawn, with plenty of deciduous trees and benches, with an open air stage, where storytellers can tell stories to kids, small theater groups can present plays to families and kids, local family-friendly musical groups can perform, jugglers and other entertainers can perform for families/kids, and venders can sell foods (not just junk food and fair food, but juices and healthy foods as well)
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    7.) Visual Arts, Design, and Fashion/Applied Arts studios for families and kids, focusing on painting, illustration, drawing, cartooning, computer animation, sculpture, pottery/ceramics, interior design, architecture, graphic design, photography, glassblowing, wood and leatherworking, along with other crafts, clothing and textiles.
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    Just a few ideas. Tacoma already has a glass museum and cafe. Seattle has PLENTY of similar/like places already. We don't need more upscale, expensive, trendy, suit and tie glass/art museums/studios and cafes to have a good time. Lets keep it casual and keep it family friendly, and most importantly, INEXPENSIVE, GREEN, and FUN.

  11. etta says:

    I'd like to see a REAL fun forest–A casually landscaped area with kid's play toys that are interspersed with trees and plantings, maybe a duck pond, maybe interpretive elements. I hate the idea of giving preference to the money generating ideas just because the economy sucks right now. All things must pass, as they say, and I'd rather wait until the economy (and grant money situation) improves.

  12. etta says:

    I'd like to see a REAL fun forest–A casually landscaped area with kid's play toys that are interspersed with trees and plantings, maybe a duck pond, maybe interpretive elements. I hate the idea of giving preference to the money generating ideas just because the economy sucks right now. All things must pass, as they say, and I'd rather wait until the economy (and grant money situation) improves.

  13. Adam says:

    How about a new Stadium for the Sonics!!!! And put the Chihuli exhibit in Key Arena!!!

  14. Adam says:

    How about a new Stadium for the Sonics!!!! And put the Chihuli exhibit in Key Arena!!!

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